Astronaut Dr. Sally Ride:
Grounded In Math And Science
by Ingrid Hoffmeister

Before interviewing astronaut Dr. Sally Ride, I felt huge waves of inadequacy washing over me. I have to confess I am a person completely spaced out when it comes to math and science. I failed both exams at high school in England and as a mature student studying in the U.S., cheated my way into an advanced English class that required math (of a certain standard) as a pre-requisite. I confess that my bachelor’s degree and later master’s resulted in part because a young college office employee looked into my then 41-year-old face and asked almost rhetorically, “Well you must have completed that in high school?” I sheepishly answered “Yes,” so she signed off on my pre-requisite math class.

On the other hand, Ride is a spectacular example of accomplishment in the fields of science and technology. To prepare for the interview, I read about her major contributions to NASA, her publications as a space pioneer, and her research centering on the theory of nonlinear beam-wave interactions, primarily connected with free electron lasers and related nonlinear systems. Oh boy.

Schoolgirl fears resurfaced. I don’t speak the language of physics, the language spoken by Ride who in 1983 at age 32, became the first woman astronaut on the STS-7 Challenger space shuttle. I calmed myself, trusting from experience that with research in hand and sitting face-to-face with Ride, the human component would combat any problems. When Ride’s assistant rang to change the in-person meeting to a 30-minute telephone interview, I felt myself orbit into a different galaxy.

A week later and back to earth, I sat waiting for the phone to ring at the arranged time with my researched questions in hand. When the phone rang, a relaxed, warm, and welcoming voice greeted me through the airways. I noted my surprise as I forged forward with my questions and wondered why I had expected differently.

Ingrid Hoffmeister: At age 27 you read about NASA’s call for astronauts in the Stanford University newspaper and applied. Eight thousand candidates applied that year; 35 were accepted and six were women. Can you identify what qualities made you one of the selected?
Sally Ride: During NASA’s selection, I think they look for more than a good education. They are looking for someone who is intellectually motivated with an appreciation for teamwork. The team includes everyone working from the ground to the astronauts in space.

IH: On June 18, 1983, you launched into space as the only woman crewmember. How did you deal with the lack of personal privacy during a six-day flight?
SR: Actually, privacy was quite reasonable — you have to appreciate that the crew is together for a year before the flight. They train and travel for 16 hours every day. It is almost like flying in space with your family.

IH: What were your thoughts as you looked back at earth from space?
SR: Looking back at earth made me realize how life on the planet is fragile. Little separates us from the complete vacuum of space.

IH: You were training for your third mission when Challenger exploded in 1986. President Reagan appointed you to the Presidential Commission charged with investigating the accident. What was your role in the investigation and how difficult was it for you to participate?
SR: As a member of the investigation team, I was charged with collecting information and sifting through the data pertaining to the accident. It was a difficult and emotional investigation because I was close to the four astronauts who died. They were part of our original group of 35 and we had all trained together. At the time, all the astronauts wanted to be involved in some way or another — have a role in the investigation.

IH: You retired from NASA in 1987 and became the director of the California Space Institute and professor of physics at the University of California San Diego. Here you have pursued your passion for encouraging young women to study science and math. Why did you choose to do this in San Diego?
SR: I grew up in Southern California near Los Angeles and always knew I wanted to return even though I had lived in Washington, D.C. and Houston. Currently, I have taken a leave of absence to work on Imaginary Lines, an organization I founded in La Jolla to provide support for all girls who are — or might become — interested in science, math, and technology.

IH: Why do you advocate so strongly for girls in science and math?
SR: It comes naturally to me. From the ages of eight to 16 I grew up interested in math and science, but unlike my friends who moved on to different subjects, I always knew I wanted to work in science. In elementary school, two-thirds of girls are interested in science, but by the end of sixth or seventh grade, they have lost confidence in pursuing it. Girls easily lose confidence. I learned this later in my career, when I started speaking to middle school girls and saw how strongly affected they are by societal pressures and stereotyping.

My parents were not scientists and could have easily directed me into other areas or subjects, but they had a larger view of life and placed a high value on education. They were open-minded with friends from various cultural backgrounds. I also believe what happens outside of school, in families and social circles, influences and shapes the attitude and perception of children’s future career goals.

[Ride is clearly a passionate advocate with a message and manner that draws me closer to the phone — isn’t she talking about me? I had lost confidence in math and science somewhere between the ages of 11 and 14 and had never quite recovered. My personal fears and misconceptions are still lingering and prodding me – even during the interview.]

IH: Can you describe some of the programs in Imaginary Lines?
SR: We have programs and events that bring girls together who enjoy the same things, letting them know that there are thousands and thousands of girls like them — there is a community like them — who enjoy math and science. We bring in female role models — women who make a difference. Imaginary Lines holds a science festival, a one-day event for middle school girls, usually held on a college campus. I invite 20 to 25 professional women from the local area to talk to the girls in small groups with the idea of changing and redirecting their perceptions. If, for example, we held the festival at Stanford, I would invite around eight female Stanford professors and the rest would be composed of local women doctors and women in business. We hold workshops and want the girls to experience a fun event.

 
 
 

  
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